There are petitions in Madrona and letters from angry realtors.
“We are welcoming any and all feedback,” Anthony Derrick, chief of staff to District 3 representative Joy Hollingsworth tells CHS about the ongoing process the council member is leading to forge an update to the city’s comprehensive plan and new zoning across its neighborhoods. “With the law, the city is going to see some massive density changes.”
Wednesday afternoon, the Seattle City Council committee Hollingsworth leads formed to take on the nearly impossible task of reaching compromise on Seattle’s comprehensive plan update will meet.
A report on displacement, a core issue for Hollingsworth who grew up watching her Central District neighborhood struggle with gentrification, is on the agenda. But the important statistics and challenges raised in the presentation on the city’s Anti-Displacement Action Plan (PDF) might get lost.
The second half of Wednesday’s meeting will focus on public engagement around the comprehensive plan update — including the city’s meetings on the update it has been hosting since 2022.
Protests and pushback from a growing chorus of property, business, and homeowners from across the city and District 3 are becoming louder as a key February 5th public forum on the comprehensive plan update proposal approaches.
In Madrona, groups are forming to oppose upzoning in the neighborhood as Seattle leaders say more areas of the city must rise to meet state required changes hoped to address growing housing and affordability challenges.
The Madrona neighborhood, they argue, should be treated differently than the rest of the city when it comes to efforts to increase density.
“LR3 zoning would forever alter and potentially erase the historic character and charm of the existing, tiny business district and neighborhood, where many homes are over 100 years old and lovingly maintained,” a new petition against the rezoning plan concludes.
567 people have signed — so far.
Hollingsworth’s office faces a major political challenge.
On one hand, the clock is ticking. Mayor Bruce Harrell needs a plan in place this year meeting the requirements of the 2023-passed state law HB 1110 that requires, for most intents and purposes, the elimination of single-family zoning in cities across the state. Hollingsworth, as head of the committee, is now in charge of forging a compromise across the entire city.
On the other, there is Madrona and other constituents of her home District 3. Not all are fighting the needed upzoning. But the neighborhood-level priorities are a significant challenge for the process.
Hollingsworth’s office is wrestling with an unprecedented legislative challenge in Seattle’s history of comp plan updates.
“This is the first time considering with districts,” Derrick says, citing Seattle’s 2015 switch in how it elected its city council. “We have a lot more of an ear on the ground, a lot more connection to the community.”
And a lot more political risk is on the line.
The Madrona pushback includes what could be a powerful bloc of real estate pros, the Urbanist reports. The expected any day now Final Environmental Impact Statement on the proposed comprehensive plan update could also be the target of “predatory appeal.”
A core element of the proposal being targeted surrounds the creation of 30 new “neighborhood centers” across the city including D3’s Madison Park, Madison Valley, Montlake, and Madrona.
The new zoning designation that would define portions of these areas as Neighborhood Centers with areas of increased density:
Neighborhood Centers are places with a diversity of housing options located around a locally focused commercial core and/or access to frequent transit. Neighborhood Centers in many cases represent the core of a neighborhood providing shops, services, grocery stores, restaurants, and other businesses that residents need to access on a regular basis. These areas provide an opportunity for people to access everyday needs within a short walk or bike ride from their homes. Allowing more housing in these areas can increase opportunities to live in complete connected neighborhoods, strengthen local businesses districts, and help people reduce reliance on cars.
“Neighborhood centers should generally encompass areas within 800 feet, or one to three blocks, of the central intersection or transit stop,” the city’s summary says.
The designation could “allow residential and mixed-use buildings up to 6 stories in the core and 4- and 5-story residential buildings toward the edges,” according to a plan draft — but Hollingsworth’s office sees room here to compromise.
“I hope people embrace and understand so much of the density is baked in to the state plan,” Derrick said. “But we will consider how, exactly, we implement.”
So much of the debate around the update is focused on change in neighborhoods like Madrona but the new growth plan is not a reinvention of the city as we know it today and would continue many of the development patterns that have shaped modern Seattle. Nearly 70% of new construction expected under the draft plan would be constrained to “Regional Centers,” the plan’s designation for the city’s most densely populated, high transit areas — Downtown, Lower Queen Anne, South Lake Union, University District, Northgate, Ballard, and First Hill and Capitol Hill — or less dense but still highly developed areas like 23rd Ave from Union to Jackson.
Derrick says Hollingsworth’s office is looking at how best to meet the state’s new requirements for Seattle zoning while also fine tuning where, exactly, the lines are drawn.
“We’re talking about where we want density to exist,” Derrick said. “A place that is designated as a neighborhood center, drawing lines on the map, the block by block implementation.”
“There’s the potential for there still to be a neighborhood center but for that to be zoned with lower heights.”
How that compromise can be worked out meeting the state mandates effectively eliminating single-family zoning restrictions while also meeting calls from those like the Madrona groups is yet to be seen. Would a neighborhood center zoned with lower heights still be a neighborhood center?
Already, Hollingsworth and city officials say feedback on the growth plan has been used to boost the number of Neighborhood Centers, increase density in the plan, adjust its approach to displacement to be more uniform across the city, and reduce parking requirements in the plan. Those changes will be mostly cheered by urbanists. Expect more changes to address those asking for slower growth in the city.
LIke most good local government process, phases could buy Hollingsworth and everybody at Seattle City Hall time.
Following the February 5th hearing, Hollingsworth and the Seattle City Council will consider what they are calling Phase 1 of the legislation that will finalize the structure of the comprehensive plan and Neighborhood Residential updates to implement HB 1110. That’s the part that will say “Neighborhood Centers” exist — or they don’t — and these are the parameters.
The compromises over drawing the actual lines will be pushed into summer as the council considers Phase 2 including rezones for the new Neighborhood Centers, new and expanded Regional and Urban Centers, and “select arterial rezones along frequent transit routes.”
Derrick says Hollingsworth’s team is ready to listen.
The city has been holding information sessions online and across the city to detail the citywide comprehensive plan proposal and gather feedback.
The complete comprehensive plan update proposal has been posted to Zoning.OneSeattlePlan.com.
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The supposedly “above and beyond” density in question being 2-3 blocks max with a cap of 6 stories? Uhhhh. Sure. Not like that’s a textbook example of NIMBYism or anything, lol.
But but but…It’s 100 year old homes “lovingly maintained”(lest anyone think otherwise). We will displace millionaires?
100? Yeah, some major gentrification/NIMBY action going on there. Definitely a little redlining.
I feel like a 500 signature online petition shouldn’t outweigh the countless person I saw show up in-person to the One City Growth plan outreach events in Central and Capitol Hill last year to demand Upzoning, permit streamlining, and affordable housing funding. Unless more credence is being given to the signatories for being wealthy homeowners.
Unless the city goes into massive decline, dropping the value of the homes in those neighborhoods, it seems unlikely any developers are going to buy multiple adjoining lots containing $3mm single-family homes to demolish and then try to build an apartment complex.
North Capitol Hill has a few of these apartment buildings but they are all from different eras, either the 1920s before all the houses were built or some newer from the 1970s when the neighborhood was considered bad.
if you upzone a lot with a $3M home to allow a 20 unit apartment/condo building, I guarantee it’ll be worth it to tear down and build new. If it’s 100 units, even more.
They’re not building apartments, but a number of lots have sold and have been turned into (overly expensive) townhouses, or another one a few doors down from where I live is now a primary house with a multi-unit ADU or DDU, or whatever we call them. So one house becomes 3-4 houses.
Yeah…The tall skinny “houses” were built next to my aunts Victorian on 11th and 67th NW 35 years ago. It’s still the only one there.
There is no such thing as an over priced home! The market sets the price!
If it’s “Unlikely”? Then they have nothing to worry about.
Right?
500 well heeled is worth a million of the peasants.
hahahahaha NO I will not sign. NIMBYs be damned, we are BUILD BUILD BUILDING
Is there a petition to show support for the current upzone plan or even push for more serious upzoning? I’m ready to sign.
Yes there is! Here is a link to petitions for every district to keep the neighborhood centers in place: https://oneseattleforall.org/petition-council. There’s also a city council meeting next Wednesday at 5 (the only one that isn’t during work hours so people other than retired boomer NIMBYs can attend) – it’s important for pro-housing people to show up and make their voices heard!
And the execs who can get time off for any reason under the sun.
Joy should counter with the full elimination of height/density limits for all of Madrona. We can then “compromise” from there
Joy decided to not show up and sent an aide.
Madrona is less than 2 miles from the central business district of the largest city in this state and all its neighbors. Preserving suburb-style zoning is entirely unreasonable, and will only result (has already basically resulted) in a Mansions-Only enclave right adjacent to downtown.
Same goes for all these downtown-adjacent neighborhoods trying to do something similar.
being a resident and property owner in Madrona I am watching this closely. I’M for denser building in certain areas. the four blocks surrounding 34th and Union are a good example for 5-6 story units. but 4-5 stories in the neighborhood in general – NO! We need to follow this and speak-up.
> but 4-5 stories in the neighborhood in general – NO! We need to follow this and speak-up.
Why would allowing 4-5 stories in the neighborhood not be okay with you? Curious to hear your argument against building more housing in this part of town.
Lee is “for” housing. A preemptive attack on anyone who’d think he doesn’t like the poor. Because yunno. Murders and drugs.
It is a shame they didn’t spread out the re-zoning to limit LR3 and allow more LR2. Waste of political capital that won’t actually result in more housing. Should have upzoned the southern portion of 34th and carry down Cherry – might actually get something built there and avoid the current knife fight.
I am unsure of what’s already in the pipes. But ya gotta think it’s solidly in the plans already. It’s a logic spot.
Honestly they went too far with this proposal – HB1100 sure but the State doesn’t require the additional zoning capacity the City is requiring.
That’s because the needs of an entire state and the needs of a dense urban area are different, probably?
yeah it’s not like we’re in a housing emergency or anything – i got mine screw you
Not much to see here, just another classic example of wealthy homeowners pulling up the ladder behind them. Wouldn’t want anyone who can’t afford a $2 million craftsman to be able to live in a neighborhood with good parks, schools, and shops! Just think — what if they came in the neighborhood and parked a Subaru in MY parking shop!
*parking spot
that too!
> “ Already, Hollingsworth and city officials say feedback on the growth plan has been used to boost the number of Neighborhood Centers, increase density in the plan, adjust its approach to displacement to be more uniform across the city, and reduce parking requirements in the plan. Those changes will be mostly cheered by urbanists. Expect more changes to address those asking for slower growth in the city.”
Did they boost the number of Neighborhood Centers though? And did they reduce the parking requirements? Just because Hollingsworth and the Mayor say so doesn’t make it true. They dramatically reduced the number of neighborhood centers compared to what was presented in early scoping and, according to public records obtained by The Urbanist, also declined to propose eliminating parking requirements entirely as the professional planners recommended. Would love to see CHS push back on self-serving misinformation pushed by our local officials next time.
If Madrona gets special treatment and a “down zone”, that just means more development and displacement pressure in the CD and my neighborhood down here. Solomon made this point well. Hopefully Hollingsworth doesn’t cave to the NIMBYs and vote for displacement.
“Would love to see CHS push back on self-serving misinformation pushed by our local officials next time.”
Joy didn’t show up. Is talking about appeasement.
If these folks are unaware? This current crop is clawing back progressive gains as fast as possible w/o regard to the voters.
In a fair city all neighborhoods would share the burden and benefit of increasing density.
That said, we won’t build our way out of this. The city needs to look to solutions beyond more development such as converting office buildings (when viable) into housing, and limits to short term rentals. How many new units quickly convert to investment properties? Some local developers have done an excellent job of equating dislike of heat-dome-creating development with being OK with homelessness. It’s a complex issue that deserves multipronged solutions.
“That said, we won’t build our way out of this.”
That’s ignorant af
I live in Madrona and support the upzone. Madrona has a population of around 10,000 so 500 online signatures against the upzone isn’t much. Plus any change would be gradual, and might even improve my lake view by cutting down some of those pesky 100 ft tall trees.
Clear cut Madrona!
Now now now…As much as we’d LIKE to? We can not take saws and axes to the millionaires. You be charged and spend life.
Do you mean the trees? Homes?
Add your name to keep the Madrona Neighborhood Center in the plan: https://actionnetwork.org/petitions/save-the-madrona-neighborhood-center/
What a bunch of sad sack whinny idiot commentators with no sense of history or economics. Gimme mine, you all say.
Ticks, most of you. Welcome to my tribe!
I can’t wait to hear the interpretations.
Everything is meat and progressives!
I am baffled that so many commenters here think these upzones are about providing “affordability.” They aren’t. The One Seattle Plan is written for the One Percent of builders who are making billions and their wealthy patrons. The three-house infill in my much shabbier north end neighborhood goes like this one: a 2,000 square foot house purchased for 1.2 million; replaced by 2 new homes, one large one for 2.2 million and two 1,300 sq ft homes for 1.3 million each. They will hit the market in three months. https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/12760-8th-Ave-NW-Seattle-WA-98177/48798533_zpid/
In what universe is this affordable housing, for the 35,000 people who make less than 50k per year?? We have enough new high end housing for the wealthy (unless you think that we are morally bound to provide housing for all the multimillionaires who would like to live here?), we have a shortage of affordable housing, which is simply not provided for in any way by upzoning and market rate development. We have seen this play out over the last 20 years. In the last 20 years, we have built 30% of our new housing and housing costs have more than doubled. In a high demand city with a growth management boundary, density does not trickle down. Studies have shown that gentrification and density at most have minor effects at the very high end of the market and they do not provide more affordable housing for those who need it.
If you would like to live in a trickle down housing environment with affordable housing, I would suggest Dallas or Houston, where sprawl makes it all work, or maybe Minneapolis where winters are bitter cold and summers hot and humid, making it even more attractive? if your dream city is hey, as dense as possibly can be, New York, Tokyo, Singapore, Chicago are all waiting for you. Or, we could keep Seattle livable, with trees, gardens, and lovely human scaled neighborhoods. There are many things we need to be working on to create affordable ownership opportunities. The condominium laws must be fixed, the state must step in and make dues on condos, lower, tax incentives for homeowners to build in their backyards and keep rents below market, land, trusts, private, public partnerships, etc. Also streamlining the permitting process which keeps builders and homeowners wanting to build on the hook . for high interest loans for months and months longer than they should be.
All people live in housing. If the people moving into the expensive housing can’t move there, don’t you think they’ll bid up the less expensive housing?
You can say it “doesn’t work” because we are not allowing enough housing, unlike Houston or Dallas. You can’t say that the only way to allow enough is through sprawl.
A little off base here, but does anyone know what is going on with a large vacant lot at the corner of 24th and John and Madison? It has been vacant for over 12 years. It should be at least 6 stories. Great transportation 11,8,48,43 and G within a block.