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Mapping results from the primary shows familiar borders as Woo and Rinck battle for Seattle City Council Position 8

Images from Converge Media’s broadcast of Wednesday night’s debate / You can view the August 2024 primary results mapped at wacommunityalliance.github.io

The battle for the citywide Position 8 seat on the Seattle City Council looks likely to cross Capitol Hill’s E Republican line as mapping the results from the August primary shows patterns that break along familiar progressive vs. centrist fault lines in the city.

Meanwhile, predicting the November election means more than simply splitting the votes from the primary candidates who did not go through along ideological lines to predict the winner. Each candidate’s most fragile borders could shift as Seattle moves forward with growing priorities around law and order solutions to the the city’s drug crisis and street disorder.

There is also this added wrinkle. Whoever wins this November between Alexis Mercedes Rinck and Tanya Woo will have to run again in 2025.

During a Seattle City Club debate Wednesday night at Capitol Hill’s Seattle Central College, some of the most pitched battles of the night came over the candidates’ approaches to public safety and the Seattle Police Department budget.

“My opponent advocates for all the policies in the last four years that have brought us where we are today. We have to move forward,” Woo said during her most aggressive jabs of the mostly calm debate. “We have to look at public safety and do that differently from what we have done in the past.”

“I always talk about Little Saigon and how it looked four years ago, and how it looks today,” Woo said. “Those are all the years of failed policy that have affected and marginalized our most vulnerable communities the most.”

Rinck, meanwhile, criticized Woo and the current council’s ineffectiveness and failure to deliver on causes important to thousands in the city like affordability and police reform.

“That is something this council has struggled to do in its eight months while in office,” Rinck said. “This is a council that has voted down affordable housing legislation, that has approve a SPOG [police union] contract without increased accountability measures, to reimplement banishment policy that has historically not worked, has also added to the budget deficit.”

View the full results map from Washington Community Alliance

This divide will play out toward November with Position 8 voting patterns from the August Primary that show some of the familiar divisons in Seattle elections as centrist candidates resonate strongest with voters in a ring along the city’s waterfront along Lake Washington and in its wealthiest, most single family home-dominated neighborhoods.

Meanwhile, more progressive candidates tend to show their strongest outcomes in the city’s most densely populated cores. How either side is able to penetrate the edges of these regions — on Capitol HIll, CHS has reported on the E Republican line as a demarcation — often tells the story of how they won the race.

Looking at District 3 Central District and Capitol Hill-area voters in the August Primary, Rinck’s campaign was able to bust north of the E Republican line. resonating with the edges of wealthier voters well into what has typically been the more centrist territory around Volunteer Park.

Can Rinck hold the line? CHS reported here on the primary victories for Rinck and Woo as they advanced with little challenge from the rest of the Position 8 field.

The progressive 43rd District Democrats endorsed Rinck, a queer, Central District Latina who hopes to fully fund city services and get corporations to pay their fair share in taxes. Rinck has said she is “a living testament” to investments in early childhood support and education, and that she understands the importance of investing in youth and city services as someone whose family needed these resources.

Woo, meanwhile, has grown as a leader in the Chinatown International District’s community helping lead her family businesses before her appointment to the council last year where she has become a staunch ally to the centrist and pro-business efforts of Council President Sara Nelson.

Woo is an incumbent, of sorts. She has filled the Position 8 seat after her appointment to finish the final year of the term when Teresa Mosqueda left to take the seat she won on the King County Council.

This November General Election will decide who gets to finish Mosqueda’s term. November 2025 will bring a fresh race for the seat. Presumably, Woo or Rinck will have a leg up as the incumbent.

The race is close on other fronts. A new Progressive People Power PAC is the latest to step into the race and is helping boost Rinck’s message. Woo got a $60,000 boost from the WA Realtors PAC. Outside the PACs, the candidates are neck and neck when it comes to funding with each having raised more then $320,000 in the race.

Wednesday night, Rinck criticized the council’s approval of Stay out of Drug Area and prostitution crime exclusion zones and said she would have voted against last year’s approved legislation enabling the City Attorney’s Office to prosecute drug use and possession on Seattle’s streets, saying she will bring more progressive priorities back to the council.

Rinck’s solutions, she said, would pair increased investments in social services and community groups as she fights to stop cuts due to budget shortfalls and, instead, would champion new taxes and fees.

“We need to try to raise new revenue,” Rinck said. “Progressive revenue, making sure that corporations and the ultra wealthy are paying what they owe”

Woo countered saying she brings a “small business owner” perspective to the council. “Asking for more taxes should be a last resort, not a first resort,” Woo said.

Woo also criticized Rinck’s work with the King County Regional Homelessness Authority and gave the city an “F” when it comes to solving the crisis.

“I think we’re failing. My opponent here wrote the five year plan for the King County Homeless Authority, a plan that would have cost the city $12 billion. We can all agree this organization has not produced any meaningful results.”

Rinck denied the plan she led would have cost $12 billion to address, saying that the figure included billions in affordable housing development recommendations and that the rest of the needed investments and services could have come “from within the city’s budget.”

But Rinck agreed with Woo on the grade.

“Having seen hundreds of our communities die outside, it’s hard not to say ‘F,'” Rinck said.

CHS reported here on the plan in early 2023. $8.4 billion of the five-year plan would have been dedicated to capital expenses and housing.

In the end, much of the debate for Position 8 Wednesday night came down to law and order where even discussion of how best to help small businesses came down to concerns about addiction, street disorder, and property damage.

“Business are really struggling. I think a lot of that is public safety,” Woo said.

Rinck, countered, criticizing Woo and the council for moving forward with enforcement and prosecution programs without wider support and spending and saying she has “yet to see additional resources” accompany the council’s public safety initiatives.

How these messages play out across Capitol Hill, the Central District, and the rest of the city in November remains to be seen but we’ll be watching the E Republican line.

 

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cap_hill_rez
cap_hill_rez
5 months ago

Weren’t progressives in the majority on the council for years and years?

Seems like most of the issues we are facing in 2024 are due to the failed actions of previous (progressive) councils, not that of a group that’s been in office for 9 months. How is having another progressive on the council, with the same failed policies that hadn’t worked previously, supposed to change things?

It’s like Trump saying, “Make America Great Again,” after he had 4 years in charge with little to show for it.

Fairly Obvious
Fairly Obvious
5 months ago
Reply to  cap_hill_rez

You might have a point if the current council hadn’t spent the last 9 months passing absolutely bone-headed legislation that is making things worse.

Also remember that Bruce, Ann and Sara have been around for quite a bit longer.

Bellevue John
Bellevue John
5 months ago
Reply to  cap_hill_rez

Bruce HArrell served in that for 12 years, he’s progressive now? Nope he’s mayor and created this mess. Out with the conservative wack jobs like Saka, Joy, and Nelson.

Jason
Jason
5 months ago

Woo’s tweets were released last night and this lady is a wacky slumlord who apparently needs children to help her with math and likes to use her car as a deadly weapon. Oh yeah Tanya Woo never voted! Vote Rinck!

chHill
chHill
5 months ago
Reply to  Jason

Geez, that sounds like so many wealthy Seattleites too, especially the “car as a deadly weapon” part.

Vote Rinck!!

Eric
Eric
5 months ago
Reply to  Jason

Can you provide a citation or link for this? That might carry some weight if substantiated.

Bellevue John
Bellevue John
5 months ago
Reply to  Eric

The Stanger published them

Legit
Legit
5 months ago
Reply to  Bellevue John

The Stranger? The same paper that would rank people who were running office by their looks?

In recent memory two of the candidates they pushed for the school board were both found to be harassing school, sure not sexual or racial, which is what the employees felt, it could only be proven it was “harassment”.

Bellevue John
Bellevue John
5 months ago

Rinck is the easy choice.

SoDone
SoDone
5 months ago

I dunno. Now, when I hear “ progressive revenue,” I champion large business “Amazon” to pick up and leave the area. Let big business leave, crater the area, and let all these fun super progressive programs fall flat and have no funding. Be an innovate start-up anywhere but here. Seattle hasn’t gotten better for me, a middle income earner, I pay more and have to step over people drugged out on fentanyl. I worry about grocery store closures because of theft. Neighbors say it is “ok” because “Kroger” and “Capitalism.” Little corner store owners assaulted with go-fund me’s established to help them recover. What is wrong with this city?

PoopShipDestroyer
PoopShipDestroyer
5 months ago
Reply to  SoDone

Can I sell my house first? :)

Hill Born in '74
Hill Born in '74
5 months ago
Reply to  SoDone

I find this comment amusing. Well, at least it’s confirmed that you hate Seattle and want it to fail. As if anyone couldn’t have already guessed that.

Just out of curiosity, since you hate progressive revenue, just precisely how much money do billionaires with their own space programs need before everything’s cheap and everyone has a high paying job in spite of the entire economic history of the planet which points to that never happening? Just curious.

And the drug problem, while I was born here and live here I have actually left Seattle (it seems you have never done so). I was in Federal Way and Tacoma today. They have a drug problem too, did you know that? It’s as if the cities are logical distribution points for drugs due to their population density and transport networks or something. The reason the open air drug markets aren’t in the suburbs or rural areas isn’t because they’re right wing, it’s because that would be a stupid place to put them. It’s almost as if you don’t know a single thing at all about basic economics. I do chuckle that lowly drug dealers understand economics better than you. Also, the five states with the lowest violent crime rates are run by Democrats and out of the top 10 in homicide rates, 7 are run by Republicans–each with a very large GOP majority.

I went to the QFC in Tacoma on Pacific Avenue and 112th, go ahead and check yourself. Prices were almost exactly identical to the QFCs here with the lone exception of the sugary drinks (oh, and a guy was distributing Fentanyl out of a truck in the parking lot, I thought that only happens here?)

A Starbucks coffee in Tacoma is only a few cents cheaper than here in spite of the higher labor costs. Give me a break with this nonsense. Seattle is expensive because people want to live here and it’s a major city with major city needs and places where people want to live are more expensive than places no one wants to live (like Mississippi, which despite cutting taxes down to close to zero, still can’t attract a major corporation).

It’s as if economics is more complicated than you make it out to be and the drug crisis is an American crisis, not just a major city problem, not a progressive problem. I see homeless junkies congregating in Burien, Federal Way, Bellevue, Renton, Auburn, Kent, Tacoma, Olympia, Lakewood, heck even those twin dumps Kelso and Longview have homeless junkies (not even close to being progressive, they’re not even liberal).

Please get a clue already and if “so done” please actually be done already and just move someplace run by right wingers. Then you can tell us all what a glorious, crime-free paradise that has good paying jobs and where everything’s super cheap. If you can’t do that, why not? I thought they had tons of jobs in those places because they kiss billionaire butt?

Also, go-fund-mes for people injured happens all over and gee, who is it that definitely wants everyone to pay out pocket? Oh I remember, it’s the right wingers not the progressives, who support programs that would have helped that business owner and in spite of propaganda from people such as yourself, are not actually in favor of violent crime.

Have a pleasant evening wallowing in your hate for Seattle.

shatteredDreams
shatteredDreams
5 months ago

i didn’t read that whole thesis so forgive me but, i doubt the numbers on crime in red vs blue cities greatly. leftists are far less likely to report many crimes because we tend to view the police as actively dangerous and mostly useless. frankly I have only reported a third of the crimes i’ve faced in this city. and most of those I only reported because it was an active shooter and i’d like to think the police or at the very least EMTs would be helpful in that situation.

chHill
chHill
5 months ago

There is a plethora of statistical data on violent crime in cities, and they definitely do not favor cities in red states. Though if you just started paying attention to local elections now, who knows what else you’ve just started paying attention to. Speaking of which, at least read a comment in its entirety if you’re gonna reply to it, because you’re just doing the equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears going la la la la as Hill Born in ’74 addresses a ridiculous comment (in great detail) from someone who either clearly doesn’t live in Seattle, or is pretending to be someone of a different socioeconomic status and making disingenuous arguments to further a right-wing, pro-business agenda that is definitionally anti-worker and anti-equity for all Seattleites.

At least make a point instead of just rambling. Unless you’re just pushing the same agenda, Mr. “I was homeless but want to vote Woo to protect my favorite businesses” Give me a break!

Smoothtooperate
Smoothtooperate
5 months ago
Reply to  chHill

Thank you! I see right through some of these people the same way. Low information voters who willfully stay that way so they feel they are right. Admitting the whole thing is a grift is tough because it’s a cult.

Smoothtooperate
Smoothtooperate
5 months ago

“i doubt the numbers on crime in red vs blue cities greatly.”

That’s ignorant. It is fact. Go research it. It takes 60 seconds.

Smoothtooperate
Smoothtooperate
5 months ago

pahleeeeeez…You do realise how you come across right? No?

“frankly I have only reported a third of the crimes i’ve faced in this city.”

When someone says “frankly” the next thing is likely 100% crap.
How many crimes have you “faced”? 100’s? 1000’s?

Also? Just because you have a kick me sign on your back does not mean everyone does. Ever think maybe it’s you? Try telling the truth at least once. This “we” stuff? Really?

You are simply playing a part to further your own self and nobody else. Your stories all lack the ring of truth. All of them.

Smoothtooperate
Smoothtooperate
5 months ago

Here ya go…Pictures. You like pictures right?

Smoothtooperate
Smoothtooperate
5 months ago

“(like Mississippi, which despite cutting taxes down to close to zero, still can’t attract a major corporation).”

Louisiana polluter industries pay 2% tax on average. If they paid anywhere near their fair share(say 28%)? They’d go from bottom 3 to a top 25 state.

chHill
chHill
5 months ago
Reply to  SoDone

Try therapy, you’re projecting strange and incorrect ideas onto other people in your city and claiming to hate it. Also capital flight is a myth, Amazon has nowhere to go…not that I wouldn’t encourage them to gtfo

That Guy
That Guy
5 months ago
Reply to  chHill

The irony here is astounding.

Smoothtooperate
Smoothtooperate
5 months ago
Reply to  SoDone

you have quite the imagination.

shatteredDreams
shatteredDreams
5 months ago

I’m here reading this because for the first time in my life i give a care about local election. I am sick and tired of working my ass off and struggling to not become homeless again only to constantly face the rampant homeless crime against myself my property and the businesses’ i frequent and even the ones i have worked for. I’m all for progressive ideas but from what i have seen these people do not actually think them through. it’s all pretty words and inadequate action. seems to me Woo has experienced the crime I do personally and might actually care to fix it.

Smoothtooperate
Smoothtooperate
5 months ago

Why should anyone listen to you? You refuse to do any research. Refuse to listen to anyone. Yet sit here and do this?

Your story is imagined propaganda. What’s your end game?

zach
zach
5 months ago

Ruck would be an ally of far-leftist Tammy Morales. We don’t need that!

chHill
chHill
5 months ago
Reply to  zach

Who is we?? Two landlords in a trench-coat?

Smoothtooperate
Smoothtooperate
5 months ago
Reply to  chHill

That’s hilarious

SeattleGeek
SeattleGeek
5 months ago
Reply to  chHill

More like two cops in a trenchcoat

zach
zach
5 months ago
Reply to  zach

“Rinck”…..sorry about the typo above.

Reality
Reality
5 months ago

It is insane that Seattle voters would even consider electing another whackadoodle leftist whose main qualification is the she worked for the failed King County Regional Homeless Authority and wrote a clueless plan that fails to acknowledge that the encampment situation is a drug crisis. The same old denialism is not going to solve the problem.

Bellevue John
Bellevue John
5 months ago
Reply to  Reality

Nothing “wacky” about Rinck. Woo is literally the wacky one talking about ramming her car into poor people.