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Occupy Capitol Hill | Trustees pass emergency rule to bar Occupy camp from SCCC — UPDATE: Lawsuit

Dr. Paul Killpatrick addresses the board (Image: CHS)

In a unanimous vote Wednesday afternoon in front of a Seattle Central Community College board room overflowing with students, Occupy Seattle campers and media, the community college system’s trustees voted unanimously to pass an emergency rule prohibiting camping on the Broadway campus. UPDATE: Occupy Seattle says it is filing a lawsuit to block the emergency rule. Details below.

The rule effectively is an eviction notice for the 100+ Occupy Seattle protesters who have been camping at the school since late October. School president Dr. Paul Killpatrick tells CHS the rule will likely be enforced in a few weeks following its filing in Olympia next Monday.


Killpatrick said the “last straw” for him was learning about the sexual assault at the camp being investigated by police.

School chancellor Jill Wakefield said the college is working on a permanent ban to take effect after the 120-day emergency rule ends. She recommended the board approve the emergency rule prior to Wednesday’s session. The Stranger has posted the text of the emergency rule here.

Prior to the board’s vote, the public comment period was dominated by speakers in support of the camp. The American Teachers Federation union rep Karen Strickland said that Occupy Seattle was still “figuring out how to best make their impact” and needed the school’s assistance. The relationship instead has been “adversarial,” she said.

Another speaker who said he had been a resident of Capitol Hill for seven months said the school was overplaying the negative health and safety impact of the camp. “Your park is cleaner now.”

CHS reported on the King County Health Department reports on the camp conditions here.

One SCCC student who did speak out against the camp’s presence on campus said she had been harassed multiple times and wanted the group removed from her school.

Another camper asked the school to plan the end of the Occupy Seattle camp with the group. “Set a date so we can take the steps together,” she said. School officials said after the vote that they would take that request to heart and work to bring the end of Occupy’s stay at SCCC to a peaceful close.

Derek Edwards from the State Attorney General’s office who drafted the rule, read the document before the vote.

One next move for Occupy Seattle will involve the Occupy the Capitol effort in Olympia. A document about the effort was discussed during Tuesday night’s General Assembly. “Occupy Seattle declares its victory at Seattle Central and votes to move its focus to Olympia,” a speaker read from the proposal.

The proposal also calls for efforts to be made so that those who choose to stay in Seattle can continue to camp at SCCC for the near-term. Other plans include finding a warehouse space in Seattle for a headquarters for the Occupy Seattle effort. In the Central District, protesters continue to occupy an empty house at 23rd and Alder.

Wednesday’s meeting began in darkness with battery powered lights placed on the board’s meeting table as the neighborhood was in the middle of a brief power outage. With no microphones, somebody shouted Occupy’s now infamous “mic check” call but the trustees forged ahead by speaking louder until the power came back on.

A surreal moment as the trustees screened a Q13 news report on the sex assault investigation (Image: CHS)

UPDATE: Occupy Seattle Lawsuit
Occupy Seattle’s legal team has sent CHS documentation of a lawsuit the group says it is filing to block the eviction of the camp from Seattle Central’s property.

Here’s the statement accompanying the text of the lawsuit and a legal memo in support of a temporary restraining order being filed in the Thurston County Superior Court:

Occupy Seattle has sued Seattle Central Community College in Thurston County Superior Court to prevent the college from evicting Occupy Seattle from the college’s campus. The suit challenges the validity of an “emergency rule” that would ban the presence of tents and other structures at the site based on concerns about health and safety. The suit claims that health and safety concerns identified in two King County Department of Health reports, including the presence of “uncontrolled dog food in uncovered bowls,” can be addressed through existing rules and enforcement by relevant agencies. The suit claims that enacting a broad “emergency rule” against tents is an “arbitrary and capricious” action, which is a violation of the college’s legal obligations. A hearing on the case is scheduled for today at 2:00 p.m.

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real 99%
12 years ago

Right On!

Phil Mocek
12 years ago

The school administration wanted Occupy Seattle out from day one. All the excuses given today are just PR maneuvers. They requested complaints from the Department of Health and from the BIA, ignored the fact that conditions are improving, neglected to provide any opportunity to further remedy problems with camp conditions, and used the same “due to health and safety concerns” talk that every city has used to justify shutting down these 24/7 demonstrations.

In anticipation of the eviction that is likely to come, I hope everyone reading this asks him or herself: What is the appropriate response to suspicion of trespassing: arrest and prosecution or assault and battery?

capicola
capicola
12 years ago

I too hope that the two sides can work together to plan a reasonable exit.

It’s quite possible this vote gives OS a graceful exit and a chance to focus time, energy and resources on direct political actions, rather than the day-to-day logistics of running a de facto homeless encampment.

Bloomberg ejected OWS from Zuccotti and several thousand showed up the next day to show solidarity. Later that week they took the protest (as close as they could) to the mayor’s doorstep, with many constituencies represented.

Let this be a similar rebirth and evolution for OS. Take the fight to Olympia, to bank-owned homes lying vacant while people freeze in the street, to the places where power is wielded shamelessly by and for the 1%. Stay resolute and nonviolent and the hearts and minds will surely follow.

neighbor
12 years ago

Time to move your garbage and porta-pottys.

Michael W.
Michael W.
12 years ago

I must disagree, Phil, about these concerns being PR only. The concerns raised by the Broadway BIA membership are based in the physical realities of the situation. Having spoken directly to the Occupy folks I can also say that many of them share the same concerns around health and safety issues at the camp. In dialog with them we have discussed their efforts to address the issues. Some of the Occupiers themselves are concerned that those efforts are not moving fast enough.

umvue
umvue
12 years ago

…to changing the world! Boy, does The Man fear the Occupy movement. Just a few more days squatting at a marginal community college in a marginal neighborhood in a marginal American city would bring about overwhelming change and right all socioeconomic injustice. Damn.

Alan Motley
12 years ago

I am not going to go into a huge diatribe about how this is starting to get ridiculous. I am happy the camp has FINALLY started talking about Olympia as a future camp location. The fact they wish for half the camp to stay on SCCC grounds just makes no sense at all. Take it to the government officials or the lawns of big business. SCCC is not the epicenter for national government or big business. You have my support but not at the current location.

Roberta
12 years ago

Anyone who has lived in the neighborhood for the past year and is being realistic about this could tell you that drugs and feces were problems on the hill long before people decided to put up tents. But by all means, continue demonizing the people who are bringing those problems to your attention. It doesn’t make any of the problems go away but it sure makes you feel tough.

Juno
Juno
12 years ago

The physical camp-style occupation has done its job till spring 2012. There are many other ways to continue educating and exposing systemic deception and injustice.

Mike
12 years ago

In response to Michael, I want to point that, regardless of the intentions of the BBIA, the letter they wrote contributed to the sensationalism surrounding this occupation. The BBIA letter says that “The report from King County Public Health, dated November 11, 2011, points to a variety of serious concerns with the encampment.” Finishing off the list is “Rodent activity and discarded/used syringes, needles on the ground.”

However, if you read the reports, you will see that at no point do they mention rodents — or even traces of rodents — anywhere in the camp. All the reports say is “Entrance of vermin [is] not controlled.” That’s the difference between having a cockroach infestation and crumbs on the table. Could more be done to keep things sanitary? Yes. But we’re not talking an immediate, critical state of pervasive pestilence. Nor did inspectors see needles anywhere in the camp. They did not dispute that a needle had been seen by others, but that has already been addressed here: http://occupyseattle.org/blog/2011-11-15/occupy-seattle-ques

At that point the BBIA letter is just copying the SCCC admin’s sensational claims of rodents (leading to the need for “exterminators” among their SCCC-related expenditures) and “needles on the ground,” rather than merely reflecting the “physical realities of the situation.”

Xavier
12 years ago

Mike – the BIA has tons of resources, including, info from a member friend, over $100.000.00 in the bank.

Some effort to mitigate in real on the ground terms might be very helpful. Letters are the easy way out, not much community leadership.

Phil Mocek
12 years ago

Michael: I’m not saying that they’re invalid concerns. I’m saying that the school is booting Occupy Seattle because they found a way to do so, not because of those concerns. I strongly suspect that they decided what they wanted to accomplish, then formulated justification for it.

As I mentioned at the Chamber board meeting yesterday: This is the pattern that has been used in just about every city that has tried to end Occupy Wall Street demonstrations. In fact, it’s the same pattern that was used with the Bonus Army occupation in 1932.

The next step is for the police to be called in, for them to inform people that they must leave, for some people to peacefully remain, then for the police to either 1) handcuff and remove people one-by-one to arrest them and charge them with whatever law they are suspected of violating, or 2) begin beating people and/or dousing them with chemical agents.

A Neighbor
A Neighbor
12 years ago

Q. What is the appropriate response to suspicion of trespassing: arrest and prosecution or assault and battery?

A. Whatever force is necessary to end the trespass.

JS
JS
12 years ago

I can’t say that feces were a problem on the Hill for the last year.

JS
JS
12 years ago

*golf clap*

Phil Mocek
12 years ago

I wonder if alleged sexual assault in dormitories and Greek houses are typically “the last straw” before mass-evictions occur on the University of Washington campus.

upd
upd
12 years ago

Really Phil? Now you are grasping at straws.

Dean Wormer
12 years ago

Looks like you and your Delta friends are on super-secret probation!

calhoun
12 years ago

Answer to your question: of course, the first option…and hopefully that will happen.

Thank you, trustees!! It can’t happen soon enough.

The SCCC not only has wanted the camp out from “day one,” but the administration said prior to the move that the camp was not welcome. In spite of the Mayor’s offer to allow the camp at City Hall, which was rejected by OS for reasons never made clear, the protestors arrogantly and aggressively moved to SCCC.

The Health Dept. is a very dispassionate/apolitical organization….they don’t make things up about what they see during an investigation of a complaint. Their observations are real, and are grounds alone for eviction.

I take issue with your description of this camp being a “24/7 demonstration.” By itself, it is totally ineffective, and even counterproductive. The campers have an option to remain at home and demonstrate effectively during the day at Westlake, banks, etc. But I get the feeling that many of the campers don’t have a real home, and they are just there for a place to stay, have some food cooked by others, etc. How many of them are actual activists committed to the cause?

Michael W.
Michael W.
12 years ago

All of the concerns addressed in the letter from the Broadway BIA are taken directly from the King County Public Health Department report. Instead of parsing the reasoning behind the letter perhaps it could be taken at face value as intended. There are serious concerns around health and sanitationn in the camp, concerns shared by the Occupy Camp people. Seeing those concerns acted upon is the one and only intent behind the Broadway BIA letter. To that end I have spoken with the Occupy Camp and they have addressed what they are trying to accomplish. But there are still issues of concern; manily food handling, sanitation and safety. The sexual assault report from this past week is also very troubling. Being silent about those concerns would be the height of irresponsibility.

calhoun
12 years ago

Phil, please provide examples of these alleged sexual assaults at the UW. Yes, these do occur from time to time, but I haven’t read any reports of this in quite some time.

You are indeed grasping at straws….apples and oranges. And weren’t you opposed to the move to SCCC in the first place? Why are you defending it now?

Michael W.michael
12 years ago

The community leadership around this issue on the side of the BIA and the CH Chamber has involved multiple meetings and discussions with SCCC, OS, surrounding businessess, residents, the City Council and the Capitol Hill Community Council. And yes, sometimes letters are called for.

Phil Mocek
12 years ago

Michael W. wrote, “All of the concerns addressed in the letter from the Broadway BIA are taken directly from the King County Public Health Department report.”

Earlier, Mike wrote, “The BBIA letter says that `The report from King County Public Health, dated November 11, 2011, points to a variety of serious concerns with the encampment.’ Finishing off the list is `Rodent activity and discarded/used syringes, needles on the ground.’ However, if you read the reports, you will see that at no point do they mention rodents — or even traces of rodents — anywhere in the camp. All the reports say is `Entrance of vermin [is] not controlled.'”

Mike is correct about both the BIA letter Michael W. wrote and about the Health Department report. The health department’s only mention of rodents in the report is that they found “insufficient solid waste storage capacity and removal, including food waste, not secured against rodents,’ and their only mention of needles was, “Hypodermic needles have been reported by occupiers on site.”

So Michael W., it’s a bit misleading to say that all of the concerns addressed in the letter from the Broadway BIA are taken directly from the King County Public Health Department report.

When the Health Department finds issues of concern surrounding food handling, sanitation, and safety at a food service establishment, multiple chances to remedy the situtation are given before temporary actions are taken.

Phil Mocek
12 years ago

Bob, I don’t have references at hand. If you’re not familiar with the fact that date rape occurs at an alarming frequency on college campuses, I don’t know what to tell you.

Yay
Yay
12 years ago

Finally! The desires of a metro area of 3 million triumph over the .0001% (the paltry 100 “occupiers”).

Yay
Yay
12 years ago

> “I don’t have references at hand.”

LMAO

too precious

Abbie H.
12 years ago

Wrong … SCCC and their masters the Democratic bigwigs in Olympia welcomed the Occupy protests thinking it would radicalize key groups like college students, govt. employees and govt. benefit collectors in time for the 2012 election without alienating conservative Dems and swing voters. In typical political doublespeak they claimed they couldn’t do anything because state law didn’t specifically ban camping on college grounds (wink wink).
That’s a crock of BS. The college president could just say he is closing the college lawn for maintenance etc. It’s completely within the bounds of his authority to do so.
The strategy didn’t work out as planned. They should have consulted the history books and looked under the Yippies and Black Panthers to see how left wing radicals impacted the Democratic party in the 1968 and 1972 elections.
The GOP and Wall St. bankers are probably laughing right about now.

Xavier
12 years ago

Guess we will see if “we don’t want you here” – if that trumps Free Speech and the Right to Assemble, based on evidence and proof.

I am betting on the courts to set conditions and admonish both parties to really communicate …. remember the ace is it is citizen owned property, all citizens of Washington, used for 30 years for hundreds of free speech events.

Someone told me there used to be a many days AIDS VIGIL there for the first ten yeas of the epicdemic, complete with food and tents, music and speakers. One year, at the Vigil, was spent sewing, brought real sewing machines with volunteers, making panels for the AIDS Quilt in DC ….. not mentioned in the suit, they should amend … Michael you should know about that, having been on the Hill for a long time.

Read the initial filing of Occupy, very well done.

danny
12 years ago

If the system you suggest was really in force, the South would still have slaves. In our Republic, minorities have inherent rights and the sheer power of the masses, more people, is not the issue.

Read the Constitution of the State of Washington, many more protections than the Fed. C.

etaoin shrdlu
etaoin shrdlu
12 years ago

It’s no LMAOing matter, “Yay.” A quick check with the google yielded this:

* Eastside woman, 19, reports rape at UW fraternity – Seattle Times, Feb 10, 2009
* Rape Alleged At Delta Chi Fraternity – UW Daily, October 26, 2004
* From the current “UW GUIDE to Campus Safety & Substance Abuse, and the Annual Fire Safety Report,” there were four “Sex Offenses, Forcible” on campus at UW last year (2011 data not available).

Four “last straws” in just one year at UW!

etaoin shrdlu
etaoin shrdlu
12 years ago

Something’s paltry, but it’s not the number of Occupy supporters. Rather, it’s Yay’s paltry knowledge of the news. The most recent public opinion survey showed one third of the respondents supported the Occupy movement (Public Policy Polling, 11/16).

Yay, that means your count of 100 supporters is off by a factor of 10,000 (!) because the poll indicates one million in the metro area support Occupy. And that ain’t paltry.

oh che can you see
12 years ago

That means 2/3 don’t agree so it doesn’t bode well for OWS, they’ve shot their wad now it’s time to pull up their pants and slink home. Just because the public(myself included) supports curtailing the outrageous greed of the CEO oligarchy doesn’t mean they also support dirty campgrounds full of crazies and addicts “occupying” public spaces to the exclusion of the general publics’ right to use them. And it doesn’t mean they support mobs blocking streets etc. wherever and whenever they see fit and claiming their free speech rights supersede public safety and order – they don’t.

Tmo
Tmo
12 years ago

Q. What is the appropriate response to suspicion of trespassing: arrest and prosecution or assault and battery?

What is the appropriate response to a stupid question?

Tmo
Tmo
12 years ago

Aren’t all of the attackers in the UW cases now living at the Occupy Seattle homeless shelter?

Tmo
Tmo
12 years ago

I did not know Occupy Seattle was made up entirely of minorities. Why fight for the 99% when you willingly exclude so many of them?

etaoin shrdlu
etaoin shrdlu
12 years ago

You’re not paying attention, “oh che can you see.” According to the poll, those one million in the Seattle metro area support OCCUPY, per se. They support “dirty campgrounds full of crazies and addicts.” They support “mobs blocking streets etc.”

That’s a lot of support for Occupy, don’t you think, “oh”? Or don’t you.

Yay
Yay
12 years ago

etaoin shrdlu – you cited 2 cases of sexual assault among the 2200 residents of the UW Greek system in a 5 year period (2006-2011) … there was 1 sexual assault among the 100 residents of Occupy in a 5-week (?) period …

get it?

no?

oh well

*yawn*

Yay
Yay
12 years ago

@danny – the “sheer power of the masses” most certainly is the issue when you’re claiming to have 99% of “the masses” on your side … that’s an argument Occupy proffered – I’m only playing by their logic

grouchy marxist
12 years ago

Polls don’t mean much, it was shown years ago that the public will take both sides of an issue such as abortion depending on how the question is worded. If the occupy camp has worn out its welcome at the ever left of center SCCC that tells me a lot more than any poll.
I predict they will move across the street to Cal Anderson Park and the ball will be in Mayor McGinn’s court. Maybe he can show some spine and leadership for the whole city of Seattle not just his cool kids fan club but I won’t hold my breath.
If there are any sane people still involved in this protest they will soon realize that the whole camping thing has run its course and the sooner they disassociate with the druggies and anarchist/delinquents the better. Insisting on fighting with the liberal powers that be in Seattle just means there is less time and energy for the original cause ….. what was that again?

Chris
12 years ago

@JS – Depends on what part of the hill you live on….

Gene
12 years ago

Need to report this factual.

MSM reporting that the petition for an injunction forbidding the college to proceed was singed by a judge this afternoon. I don’t know if the college oppposed the order … Justin will find all the details after turkey, I am sure.

Hearing to hear the arguments is set for Dec. 2.

Win for occupy. Judge feels there are suffient issues to schedule a hearing, and the eviction is not automatic, no faites accomplie. I thought the Occupy pleading was well presented.

Suspect progressive legal groups will file on the Occupy side, those groups with tons of free legal experts.

math
12 years ago

@ES 1 assault in 100 people in ~5 weeks (out of 52) = ~10-12% annual chance of being assaulted.

Tmo
Tmo
12 years ago

So a 10 to 12 percent chance of being assaulted is a positive for you?

Yay!
12 years ago

Why were all my posts deleted?

Yay
Yay
12 years ago

I take that back – 2 are still live, only 6 were deleted.

This happened one other time I commented in an OWS post at CHS as well.

zeebleoop
zeebleoop
12 years ago

@etaoin shrdlu

i think this is the poll to which you are referring to? the one that says support for occupy, while at 33%, is down from the previous 35% (45% say they oppose). support is falling – per this article and the polling.

regardless of the polls, look at the number of comments on local articles and blogs opposed to the occupy group versus those in favor. in nearly every comment string, with the exception being maybe on slog, it seems that comments opposed to the “camp-out” outnumber those for it. unless the group makes some major changes, soon, they’ll just be a footnote to the year.

oh, and the population of seattle is 608,660; not a million.

zeebleoop
zeebleoop
12 years ago

i don’t know that anyone should be crowing about a win at this point. a temporary injunction was pretty well assumed given that the emergency rule was passed on the wednesday afternoon before what, for many people, will be a four-day weekend. a 12/02 hearing gives both sides about four business days to prepare next week for arguments.

i read the complaint that occupy submitted and i see some points. but it’s going to be hard to argue given that the government does have the right to put limitations on free speech (from the aclu – “The government has the authority to make reasonable restrictions on the time, place, and manner of certain speech activities if there is a compelling reason to do so.”). also, there’s precedent from nyc judiciary that ruled that camping is not protected speech.

it’ll be interesting to see how this plays out.

Gene
12 years ago

Yes, it is a win for Occupy. The anti jackals here have made many many derisive remarks, from dress to hygiene to purpose to ability to do anything to ….ad nauseum. By moving to the courts they show savvy the mainstream understands.

And we never admire people who do not fight for what they believe, it is an American culture norm. We like fighters. Here, on this issue, it will be a clear fight. Documented, public, and based on standards of proof and evidence, NOT vague blah blah, the rumor repeated as fact. Amazing how that has shaped so much opinion.

Occupy is a tenant by permission. They have tenant rights as well, Washington has great landlord tenant rights, detailed by LAW. No tenant is at the whim of the landlord.

And I suspect the rigged attorney general this will no please jurists. Courts decide, no other – and what is the emergency again? Cooked issue.

It will be interesting, I talked to six businesses yesterday, NONE felt this was the most important issue facing them as the holidays get started. A “we don’t like you letter” holds little weight for a judge in Olympia, not elected by a single Seattle vote.

Will be interesting – and appeals could take many, many months – US Supreme Court?? Bundle of rights at stake… the big ones that affect every citizen every where … ah, mass movement catalyst. ( which some feel never does anything )

Gene
12 years ago

Prior to turkey – while still awake, turkey does put me to sleep.
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Yes, it is a win for Occupy. The anti jackals here have made many many derisive remarks, from dress to hygiene to purpose to ability to do anything to ….ad nauseum. By moving to the courts they show savvy the mainstream understands.

And, we never admire people who do not fight for what they believe, it is an American culture norm. We like fighters. Here, on this issue, it will be a clear fight, Occupy vs. SCCC, BIA, Chamber, etc. – good fighting players. Documented, public, and based on standards of proof and evidence, NOT vague blah blah, the rumor repeated as fact. Amazing how that has shaped so much opinion.

Also, Occupy is a tenant by permission. They have tenant rights as well, not yet introduced in court documents. Washington has great landlord tenant rights, detailed by LAW. No tenant is at the whim of the landlord.

And I suspect the rigged attorney general fiat, very political with elections looming, that this will not please jurists. Courts decide, no other – and what is the emergency again? Cooked issue.

It will be interesting, I talked to six businesses yesterday, NONE felt this was the most important issue facing them as the holidays get started. Those, “we don’t like you letters” holds little weight for a judge in Olympia, not elected by a single Seattle vote. They read a bit like typical Settle vanity public relations.

Will be interesting – and appeals could take many, many months – US Supreme Court?? Bundle of rights at stake… the big ones that affect every citizen every where … ah, mass movement catalyst. ( which some feel never does anything )

Happy over eating, pumpin pie is an all time fav.

Gene

Yay
Yay
12 years ago

@gene

lolwut

Occupy Broadway
12 years ago

Fuck the 1% of Capitol Hill. You fuckers are so concerned with your profits, you should be working WITH this national movement, not attacking it and giving those pieces of shit Ed Murray and Jamie Pederson a free ride.

To be a Democrat is to be a member of a party of the 1%.

Haha
12 years ago

Sorry… We are enjoying our Thanksgiving celebrations with our families IN A WARM ROOM!!!!!

As the SPD tells the rest of the vagrants that fight, shit, and piss all over our Capitol Hill community…

Move along….

Yay
Yay
12 years ago

National movements can get more than 80 people to show up.

By Occupy standards, my bris was a national movement.

Anna
12 years ago

This is becoming ridiculous. WHAT is being accomplished by having this tent city parked at SCCC? This site is nowhere near any of the institutions they are demonstrating against. This camp is not even a blip on the radars of the corporations they are protesting. They are not “in the face of” any government officials who would actually have a hand in “ending corporate greed.” Who are they disrupting, other than the 99% they are railing for? I ride the 49 to work every day, so I’ve seen this camp every day since it was established, and all I see is that it’s becoming a bigger and bigger shit pile that’s just getting in the way of people trying to go to school.

The only thing this camp is accomplishing is creating a homeless tent city without the strict “no drugs, no alcohol” rules enforced by other tent cities that don’t pretend to hide under the convenient guise of the Occupy movement.

Weave
12 years ago

On the bus, riding by, how can you do a proper evaluation?

Your powers of observation are simply amazing it seems.

mercurialfool
12 years ago

First, come up with a proposed solution. I’m sick of your bitching and moaning. You DO NOT represent the part of the “99%” that is still working. What working man would support clogging up traffic all to hell? No working man would support that. I also didn’t appreciate all the stickers all over the ATM nearest the farmers-market on Sunday. If I can’t get money out of an ATM to spend on Broadway how does that hurt the banks or help local businesses?

This movement is aimless and useless. The proof of its aimlessness is the location- Cap hill??? WTF?? why not bellevue? You want to mess with some people who don’t question their assumptions and world? Look at Bellevue. But that would require some effort.

The proof of uselessness is the lack of any concrete policy proposal or aim that can be supported by anyone. Theres nothing.

Lastly, “their chosen form of free speech is camping”- WTF???
What if my chosen form of free-speech is deflating car tires? is that protected? What about pissing on ATMs? would that be protected? Not every action a person can take can be considered “protected free speech”. There is such a thing as property rights, and public safety. The fact of the matter is that no one else can use that park because they’re camping on it. And, sadly, I do feel less safe with that homeless camp there. I don’t trust those people. They can’t have jobs or be responsible for pets, family, children or anything else of consequence from a tent, so, its hard to trust them.

Occupy movement: I am sympathetic to the economic iniquity in this country and the eroded social mobility, but you need to make a set of proposals and get the -real- 99% (the rest of us) behind it. This continued crap erodes your real public support and marginalizes you.

BB217
12 years ago

As much as I support the freedom of speech and the group’s right to protest, there are more than a few people from the camp that have been harassing and disturbing the businesses and people that frequent the hill. I’m sorry but if you were to go to a drug store and shop there for half an hour, you’d probably hear the security code ringing or see one of the people from the camp stuff something down their pants and that is a shame because while they protest for the 99%, they are essentially stealing from them and costing the the 99% their jobs. I agree fully with the trustees because students that pay to go to school should not be put in harms way just because people disagree with the way the government is run (NOTE TO OCCUPY SEATTLE, the school has NOTHING to do with the decisions made in Washington) so why should the students’ right to learn be hindered and affected? If I went to school there and there were rats running around, people bathing in the lawn (I actually saw it happen yesterday) and people aggressively panhandling then I would be extremely disappointed in the fact that my school, the institution in which I entrust my care and wellbeing to, has failed in maintaining my right to learn as well as my right to safety and security. This group has cost the city as well as the school so much money and guess who has to pay for it – the frigging 99%! If Occupy had a good plan in action and had actual solutions to present then it wouldn’t seen like they are just chilling on the SCCC’s lawn or squatting at a foreclosed house. Bottom line – good for SCCC, Occupy Seattle – get your act together because the way this group is going about it is negligent and ultimately hurting those that you seemly represent.

BB217
12 years ago

I actually work near the camp and I have to walk by it everyday and I can agree that it is becoming a pile of shit. Just because it doesn’t affect you everyday doesn’t mean that you have to jump on those that have to encounter this growing mess of so called protesters. I’m sorry but when is camping on a school lawn, stealing from the stores around you and putting those stupid stickers on EVERYTHING (including inside private, local stores) helping the cause and don’t say that it is creating awareness because it’s not. It’s just creating a deeper divide between classes. Fuck the Occupy group and I’m sick of people saying that they’re what’s right in the world. When is it ever right to steal, vandalize and harass people walking down the street?! The hill used to be a nice neighborhood to explore but now it’s just a mess. It wouldn’t be such a big problem if the group cleaned up after themselves (i.e. take care of the rat problem – better yet not create one in the first place) but they dont because they are too busy bitching about how everyone else has it better than them and how everyone should join their “revolution”. BULLSHIT. Don’t make it harder for those that are just trying to punch in and punch out and earn their honest buck. Don’t also make others feel bad because they HAVE jobs or that they aren’t slumming it out on a fucking school lawn like you. So FUCK them because they do not represent the 99% which they claim they do.

calhoun
12 years ago

I have read all the “Occupy” posts over the past few weeks, and it is quite obvious that there is a consensus of those who live and/or work on Capitol Hill: You are NOT welcome to camp at SCCC!

Please get the message and clear out. Otherwise, you are just being self-righteous and arrogant.

Annoyed Seattle
12 years ago

Apparently the Occupy Seattle Legal Team can’t afford their own phone line? Why are they listing the Seattle Central main line as their phone number? Is the college supposed to transfer phone calls to their tent?

calhoun
12 years ago

Yes, that’s laughable. But, why not?…OS expects SCCC to take care of all their trash, provide extra security, use of bathrooms, and of course free rental space.

Eric
12 years ago

Obviously Occupy people are not very smart because the majority of us who live near SCCC want them gone so get the f*ck out!